<\/p>\n In this game-changing episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, host John Jantsch<\/strong> sits down with Sara Nay<\/strong>, CEO of Duct Tape Marketing, to discuss what they\u2019re calling the Anti-Agency Model<\/strong>. With over 15 years of collaboration, Sara and John unpack the reasons traditional marketing agency models are struggling\u2014and why a system-based, AI-enhanced strategy is the future of small business marketing.<\/p>\n They explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping the marketing landscape and why internal ownership of marketing systems is becoming the new gold standard for business growth, scalability, and even acquisition-readiness.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n <\/p>\n Sara Nay<\/strong> is the CEO of Duct Tape Marketing<\/a>, a pioneer of the Anti-Agency Model, and a champion of marketing systems for small businesses. With extensive experience as a fractional CMO, trainer, and systems thinker, she is helping shape a new direction for marketing professionals and agencies worldwide.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\nEpisode Summary<\/h2>\n
About Sara Nay<\/h2>\n
What You\u2019ll Learn in This Episode<\/h2>\n
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Key Moments from the Show<\/h2>\n
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Join the Anti-Agency Movement<\/h2>\n